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| Wednesday, 28-Dec-2005 00:00 |
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Are we for real?
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ROY: We have been talking about addressing an isssue that some people must think or say to themselves, and that is the reality of what is claimed for the Outlands Community: that we are composed of flesh-and-blood and spiritual beings. I claim that I chanel all of these people. I claim that some of them are my partners - I mean, we are talking what used yo be called 'marriage' here. I claim that some of them have helped save my life and save me from my evil old self. That's a big statement.
There are plenty of objections, some of which are serious, to what I claim. A lot fo it seems also to contradict what is known of science. We are gonna try to address that also. We feel that this is important because it would be real easy for someone to say it's all hokum like Scientology or fundamentalist Christianity. One of the things we wish to establish is some semblance of credibility. We want to be open to questions, objections and all. (I would ask that if you wish to firepit me or us, please go elsewhere)
There were two periods in my life where I felt that I had to establish, at least for myself, that I wasn't going or gone crazy, and in that regard I feel I have succeeded. Convincing oneself that one is not crazy can be easy, conveniently easy - but today I want to start getting the type of questions I've gotten from people who know me face to face - am I schizophrenic? have I ever told a psychological professional about this? Is this what happens when you take LSD and kindred things for four decades? Am I being deluded by the devil? Has anyone else 'met' or 'seen' people in the Community?
SARA: One of the things that I feel we as a community lack is a math expert, someone who is good at the kind of math needed in modern molecular physics. I say that because at best we are poets and artists, or good at various aspects of 'being human.' I guess I must provide an example. Today a lot of research has been accomplished regarding the Standard Model, as it is called, of particle-physics. Quite a lot of money is being spent at the moment to build particle-colliders which will, or should, establish the existence of sub-atomic particles like the Higgs boson. The reason this is done is because promising theory developed by the late Richard Feyneman and improved upon by others has established the existence of thinks like quarks, gluons and various kinds of neutrino.We on the other hand have not much 'hard science' to back up what are at best the subjective claims of people like Roy. We have leads which seem to hold promise for the development of a science of alternative realities. For one thing, I exist in a different dimension than flesh-and-blood human beings; I am a human being; and again, this is my own subjective observation, but it appears that the world within which I live vibrates a faster rate than the flesh-and-blood world; the archons live in a higher vibrational frequency, and the various angelic or devic beings live in a higher worls still. It has been said that 'your' world vibrates at 7.8Hz, or cycles-per-second, therefore mine would seem to vibrate at a higher frequency; as someone like Roy, or any other channeler, can 'access' our world, I would then be led to believe that my world is in some sort of harmonic relationship to your world. In other words, perhaps my world vibrates at 15.6Hz, or 11.7Hz, which would, in the Pythagorean understanding of harmony, be in a resonant relationship with your world. Having said that, if you have any understanding of the math involved in physics, you will know that by using Pythagorean harmonic theory I am referring to a mathematical model of your world that is 2500 years old and has little relevance to physics as it actually is today.
Another obstacle is the current attitude of a good portion of the scientific world which simply says that I cannot exist, therefore what is being put forwards here is the fabrication or delusion of one person. I want to go on record as saying that I personally support a lot of the debunking and much of the critical skepticism that is available concerning these matters, simply because so much of what is claimed is so much nonsense, and is put forwards as a religious or spiritual truth so that individuals can make money from the credulous. As two examples I would cite Scientology and the Emin Society. Both have made their founders , Hubbard (now deceased) and Armin, huge sums of money, while what they have delivered is of questionable value. Scientology in particular suffers from bad science, plain and simple. People have almost died from their so-called health regimens, which can involve saunas and lots of niacin; that alone can be a deadly combination. Further, if you want to 'get ahead' in either organization, be prepared to part with lots of your money. And, as a sidebar, how different is this from any church that passes a collection plate?
We want to begin putting what we say on a respectable scientific footing and as we are now we just cannot. There has been any amount of 'scientific testing' to see whether or not anything is happening when a channeler channels, or a faith healer heals; in some instances, yes, something is definitely going on; the Rhines began establishing that at Duke in the 1940's. But this is mere subjective evidence, at best any instrumentation used to detect the energy released during, say, telekinetic exhibitions, are extensions of eyes and ears: something is going on, but WHAT? What mathematical model does this testing seem to verify? There simply is none that we know of.
At the beginning of the 20th century Einstein worked out a lot of the math involved in establishing the general, and then special, theory of relativity. Since then physicists have had a lot of time and money to debate, argue about, improve and extend Einstein. We on the other hand are at about the level of Mesmerism as it was known at the end of the 18th century - hardly credible science!
Some of this information will be replicated at Stro Moon Daglo's blog:
http://www.getablog.net/stromoondaglo
within a day or two
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